【键盘侠】东契奇开季表现高效|赛季最佳新秀早早锁定？
2018-11-08 17:49:22 来源：零点吧
Luka Doncic is averaging around 20 ppg on 59% TS. Nobody under the age of 20 has ever averaged those numbers.
卢卡-东契奇本赛季场均约20分，真实命中率高达59%。在20岁以下球员中，此前还没人达到过这一成绩。
If you go up to age 20: Anthony Davis, Shaquille O'Neal, Adrian Dantley
The only other 19 year old to average 19+ ppg and 6+ reb is Melo, who did it on much lower efficiency.
如果把范围扩大到20岁的球员，那么安东尼-戴维斯、奥尼尔和阿德里安-丹特利做到过。
在19岁的年纪能拿到场均得分19+篮板6+的，只有安东尼，不过他当年的效率要低得多。
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[–]SteakLord420 1969 points 9 hours ago
He’s pretty good.
东契奇是真的非常厉害。
[–][CLE] Kyrie Irving Sektsioon 923 points 9 hours ago
Funny thing is he’s shooting FTs much worse than he did in Europe. He’s in low 70s right now, if he shot his usual 80+% from the line, his TS% would be 60+.
欧文球迷：有意思的是，他的罚球命中率要比之前在欧洲低得多。他现在才70%多一点啊，如果他的罚篮命中率能有常规状态下的80%+，那他的真实命中率就有60%+了。
[–]Mavericks Westerlos 43 points 8 hours ago
He’s been trending up. There was a couple of games early on where he bricked like half his free throws. He’s been solid since.
独行侠球迷：他一直在改善啊。赛季初有几场比赛他都有一半的罚球打铁，从那之后就加强了。
[–]EthanSpears 43 points 6 hours ago
Eh, he is a rookie. Give him time.
呃，毕竟是个菜鸟啊，给他时间。
[–]ours-stress-refugee 1133 points 8 hours ago
It's hard to adjust to the American FT line
要适应美国的罚球线还是很困难的。
[–]Hawks daeve 923 points 8 hours ago
just ask Ben Simmons
老鹰球迷：问问本-西蒙斯就知道了。
[–]Raptors Toronto416ix 556 points 7 hours ago
He's gotta figure out which hand to shoot with first
猛龙球迷：本西首先得搞明白用哪只手投篮。
[–]Warriors datouch 104 points 7 hours ago
Damn
勇士球迷：杀人诛心。
[–]76ers yantraa 59 points 6 hours ago
Not that easy. You have to realize he is from Australia. Everything is reversed there so he probably doesn't even know hes using the wrong hand right now.
76人球迷：没那么容易的。你得明白他是来自澳大利亚的，那里的一切都是反过来的，所以他或许甚至都不知道他现在的投篮手用反了。
[–]Hawks daeve 28 points 7 hours ago
It's hard to adjust to American handedness
老鹰球迷：要想适应美国人的惯用手习惯还是很难的。
[–][LAC] Shai Gilgeous-Alexander norse95 24 points 6 hours ago
Here in America we jerk off with our right hands ONLY
快船球迷：在咱们美国啊，我们都只用右手打飞机。
[–]Trail Blazers probably2high 9 points 4 hours ago
Oh sure, like the American guy is going to use a mouse in his left hand. Come on.
开拓者球迷：没错，所以美国人都会用左手操作鼠标。撸起。
[–]carismo 364 points 6 hours ago
LeBron?i?
勒布朗契奇
[–]TooClutchForLunch 100 points 4 hours ago
Actually this means Little LeBron in balkan languages
实际上这个在巴尔干语里的意思是小勒布朗。
[–]carismo 55 points 4 hours ago
yea I’m from Croatia so I know this.
知道啊，我是克罗地亚人。
[–]NBA moboization_28 46 points 3 hours ago
so Doncic means Little Don
所以东契奇就是小东咯。
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[–]Raptors Soularion 609 points 9 hours ago
The only rookies who have ever averaged 18/6/4 on league average TS% ae Kareem, Jordan, Oscar Roberson and Magic.
Admittedly, Luca's numbers aren't as good as any of those guys, but it's extremely rare to see a rookie this well-rounded.
猛龙球迷：能在新秀赛季场均拿到18+6+4，且真实命中率保持在平均水准的只有贾巴尔、乔丹、奥斯卡-罗伯特森和魔术师。
必须承认，东契奇的数据还没这些前辈中的任何一个好看，但是一个新秀能有这么全面还是极为罕见的。
[–]Mavericks DirkNowitzkisWife 286 points 8 hours ago
Lebron was 20.9/5.5/5.9, Luka is at 19.8/6.5/4.4
I think it wouldn’t be unreasonable for Luka to be at 20/7/5.5 by the end of the year.
独行侠球迷：勒布朗处子赛季的场均数据是20.9+5.5+5.9，东契奇现在是19.8+6.5+4.4。
我觉得吧，东契奇在赛季结束时场均达到20.9+5.5+5.9也不是没有道理的。
[–]Mavericks warpedspoon 234 points 8 hours ago
I don't know if he'll start getting more rebounds. His assists should definitely come up and turnovers down as he gets more used to his teammates and the speed of the game.
独行侠球迷：我不知道他是否会抢到更多的篮板。可是他的助攻肯定会升，失误也会减少，因为他会更加适应队友和比赛节奏。
[–]Raptors Soularion 108 points 7 hours ago
LeBron was also wildly inefficient as a rookie; 49% TS, while Luca is at around 58-59%.
Luca's actually pretty insane.
猛龙球迷：勒布朗在处子赛季还是欠缺效率的，他的真实命中率当时只有49%，而东契奇目前是58%。
东契奇真的相当疯狂了。
[–]76ers allinasecond 132 points 7 hours ago
If LeBron would enter the league now as a rookie his numbers would be way higher.
76人球迷：要是勒布朗现在以菜鸟的身份进入联盟的话，那他的数据高的不行啊。
[–]Lakers We_Are_Grooot 53 points 6 hours ago
Also while Doncic is by no means old for a rookie (he's just 19), lebron was still a year younger coming in. He put up 27-7-7 in his 19-20 season.
湖人球迷：而且东契奇作为一个新秀的年龄绝不算大（他才19岁），勒布朗当年进入联盟比他小一岁。但是他在19岁到20岁的赛季就拿到了场均27+7+7的数据。
[–]BudotsKing 34 points 5 hours ago
Lebron is a legit MVP contender at 19. Fucking crazy. I was a kid back then and I took the greatness I am witnessing for granted. Didnt realize at that time how Lebron was too young to ever be doing the things he is doing.
勒布朗在19岁就已经是MVP的有力竞争者了，真他娘的疯狂。当年我还是个娃娃，我把那种伟大当做是理所当然，压根没意识到那么年轻的勒布朗能够完成那些壮举有多了不起。
[–]Suns nickricci11 6 points 3 hours ago
Ayton is literally averaging 16/11/3.5 on 61 TS%
太阳球迷：我们的艾顿场均也有16+11+3.5啊，真实命中率有61%呢。
[–]Celtics Sesleri 290 points 7 hours ago
Andrew Wiggins getting max money for ~20 pts on 49% TS lol.
凯尔特人球迷：维金斯就凭借着真实命中率49%下的场均20+拿到了顶薪，哈哈哈
[–]Grizzlies seKer82 136 points 6 hours ago
Wiggins is missing the easiest thing to develop in the NBA .. effort. So sad to see that talent go to waste.
灰熊球迷：维金斯在NBA发展缺少最简单的一项素质……努力。看到他如此挥霍天赋真的悲哀。
[–]Magic Tankwagonbmalbert81 96 points 5 hours ago
Wiggins the king of the 20-1-1 line
魔术球迷：维金斯是场均20+1+1的王者。
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[–][NYK] Baron Davis themariokarters 367 points 9 hours ago
Not really surprised. Best player in the second-best league in the world
尼克斯球迷：我对东契奇的表现并不意外，毕竟是世界第二联赛的最佳球员。
[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 321 points 9 hours ago
Third best league***
Show some respect to the JBA /s
凯尔特人球迷：明明是世界第三联赛，麻烦尊重下咱们的JBA联赛好嘛
[–]76ers EfficientJellyfish 83 points 9 hours ago
Might become the 4th best if a Ball joins the G-League
76人球迷：如果球家有人去发展联盟的话，那欧洲联赛或许要成世界第四联赛了。
[–]Lakers xNephew 589 points 9 hours ago
Is Luka already better than Ingram ?
湖人球迷：东契奇已经比英格拉姆要厉害了吗？
[–]Lakers swagdaddy912 1178 points 9 hours ago
No shit
湖人球迷：扎心了
[–][CLE] LeBron James Scatteredbrain 56 points 9 hours ago
trae young is already better then ingram (no offense lakers fans)
詹姆斯球迷：特雷-杨都已经比英格拉姆更强了（无意冒犯湖蜜）。
[–]Raptors fabrar 157 points 7 hours ago
I like Lakers younguns but Luka is already better than every single one of them. I still think Ingram has the potential to be a star player though.
猛龙球迷：我喜欢湖人的年轻人，但是东契奇现在已经比他们任何一个都要强了。不过我仍然觉得英格拉姆具备球星潜质。
[–]Lakers RmooreChuckECheese 220 points 9 hours ago
We struck out with our two picks
湖人球迷：我们这两个选秀算是砸手里了。
[–]Lakers swagdaddy912 326 points 9 hours ago
Lol the Lakers have drafted role players with all their picks
湖人球迷：哈哈哈，咱们用所有的选秀签选了一堆角色球员。
[–]Mavericks LeoFireGod 83 points 8 hours ago
not everyone can be danny ainge ok.
独行侠球迷：不是每个人都是丹尼-安吉，懂吗
[–]Pacers mcshkan 16 points 7 hours ago
Is Ingrams ceiling really only as a roleplayer? Just curious i havent watched him much. Lakers fans seemed to think much higher of him than that this summer
步行者球迷：难道英格拉姆的上限真的只是一个角色球员吗？我就是好奇啊，毕竟我没怎么看他比赛。貌似湖蜜今年夏天对他的评价比现在高得多啊。
[–]Nuggets Cherniymazov 62 points 9 hours ago
Watching Ingram try to post up Kyle Lowery was hilarious.
掘金球迷：看着英格拉姆费劲儿地背打洛瑞真的是滑稽。
[–]Lakers RmooreChuckECheese 77 points 9 hours ago
I don't get it how hard is it to gain weight with elite training, nutritional advice, and coaching?
湖人球迷：有了顶尖训练师的帮助、营养建议和教练的指导，长点肉怎么就这么难呢，我真是不明白了。
[–]Clippers PMinisterOfMalaysia 77 points 7 hours ago
He is definitely expected to be more than a role player. Not sure why a Lakers fan would imply otherwise.
快船球迷：他的成就绝对不止角色球员，不明白湖蜜为嘛对他态度大变。
[–][LAL] Steve Nash DetectiveCactus 14 points 6 hours ago
So many Laker fans hate him. I dont know why. His rookie year was underwhelming, but he looks really good.
湖人球迷：有很多湖蜜很讨厌他，我搞不懂。他在处子赛季没那么多人关注，但是他看着挺不错的啊。
[–]peppermintpattymills 98 points 8 hours ago
Jesus are you guys already dismissing Lonzo and Ingram? They're still kids. Young players have different trajectories.
天呐，难道你们已经否定鲍尔和英格拉姆了吗？他们还是孩子啊，年轻人会有各种发展轨迹的。
[–]Hawks nerdyintentions 56 points 7 hours ago
People overreact so much. Couple weeks ago everyone was talking about Ingram possibly making a leap. Now they've "struck out" by picking him. The season isn't even a month old yet. Let em play a bit.
老鹰球迷：大家的反应太过了。就在几周之前，大家还都在说英格拉姆或许能取得飞跃。现在就觉得选他是砸了。新赛季甚至都没到一个月啊，让这帮年轻人多打几场吧。
[–]Cavaliers Nazcai 58 points 7 hours ago
If these dudes were gms jimmy butler and curry wouldn’t have made 3 years in the nba lmao
骑士球迷：要是这些人是球队总经理，那吉米-巴特勒和库里在NBA待不过三年，哈哈哈
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[–][GSW] Draymond Green jthc 61 points 8 hours ago
I thought he'd be an assist man like Simmons with a shot, but the dude is a natural scorer.
追梦格林球迷：我觉得他是西蒙斯这种僚机，不过有篮子，而且这哥们儿是个天生的得分手。
[–]mavericks fan1000 223 points 9 hours ago
And some thought college ball would be better for him. LMAO.
独行侠球迷：有些人之前还说大学篮球更适合他呢，哈哈哈
[–]Clippers clayfu 45 points 7 hours ago
"He's too slow for NBA speed. This isn't the Euroleague"
快船球迷：“他太慢，没法适应NBA节奏，这里可不是欧洲联赛。”
[–][POR] Damian Lillard Familyguy35 62 points 9 hours ago
I underrated him. Good for him and the Mavs
利拉德球迷：我以前低估他了。为他和独行侠高兴。
[–]Quantumsystem00 238 points 9 hours ago
Roy definitely unless trae Young has a Steve Nash year with those assists and shooting
绝对是赛季最佳新秀了，除非特雷-杨打出那种助攻得分一把抓的纳什式赛季。
[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 188 points 9 hours ago
You don’t think ayton has a chance?
凯尔特人球迷：难道你们不觉得艾顿有机会争最佳新秀吗？
[–]Mavericks Squirrel_Dude 85 points 8 hours ago
It's possible, but big men haven't been winning RoY awards recently. Since 2008 (when Kevin Durant was drafted to the Supersonics), a non-guard has only won the award twice. Karl Anthony Towns and Blake Griffin.
KAT's 2015: 18.3 pts 10.4 rbs 2.0 ast
Griffin's 2010: 22.5 pts 12.1 rbs 3.8 ast
Ayton so far: 15.9 pts 10.9 rbs 3.4 ast
He's got a shot.
Note: Wiggins and Durant won but they were both listed as shooting guards.
独行侠球迷：有可能，但是大个子这些年都没得过赛季最佳新秀。从2008年（杜兰特被超音速选中）以来，非后卫球员当选赛季最佳新秀的情况只有两次：唐斯和格里芬。
唐斯15年的数据：18.3分10.4板2助；
格里芬2010年的数据：22.5分12.1板3.8助；
艾顿目前的数据：15.9分10.9板3.4助；
他有机会。
注：维金斯和杜兰特都得过，但他俩都注册的是得分后卫。
[–]Warriors MacDerfus 13 points 5 hours ago
GOATS get picked 3rd, it's a rule.
勇士球迷：史上最佳都是探花秀，这是规矩。
[–]Cavaliers dennydiamonds 37 points 9 hours ago
Our rookie is good too... Oh wait.. Our rookie has potential... Oh wait... We got Collin Sexton...
骑士球迷：我们的菜鸟也很厉害啊……等等……我们的菜鸟有天赋的……等等……我们那是塞克斯顿……
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