【键盘侠】传灯泡关系不可修复|这时候还有谁会接手保罗呢？
2019-06-19 15:25:48 来源：零点吧
[Goodwill] The delicate relationship between Houston Rockets stars James Harden and Chris Paul has been termed “unsalvageable” and the star players want a divorce, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
据雅虎记者Vincent Goodwill报道，火箭两大球星哈登和保罗之间的关系已经“不可修复”，他们想要分开。消息人士透露保罗向火箭管理层提出了交易申请，而哈登更是在西部第二轮被勇士淘汰之后让管理层在自己和保罗之间二选一。
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[–]Warriors jwick89 25 points 6 hours ago
Well this is a consolation prize for losing the Finals.
勇士球迷：好啦，这也算是我们输了总决赛之后的一个安慰吧
[–]NBA dchaid 16 points 6 hours ago
Mommy and Daddy are fighting
爸比妈咪打起来了
[–]Warriors kscdabear 2265 points 5 hours ago
Good luck trading Paul
勇士球迷：有本事就送走保罗咯
[–]Raptors CNDNFighter 1522 points 5 hours ago
Imagine if because of the difficulty in moving that contract, they just decided to blow it up and trade Harden instead. Hell, we saw what the haul for a guy of that calibre can bring you just a couple days ago.
Now, I know this isn't going to happen but my god would I love it.
猛龙球迷：假设啊，要是由于送走保罗难度着实太大，火箭干脆决定推倒重来，送走哈登呢。靠，我们几天前才见识过这种级别的球员所能引起的震荡。
我知道这事儿不会发生，可是就想看热闹啊
[–]Redditaspropaganda 851 points 5 hours ago
They would get a great return for Harden. it would be better than AD. I'm not really sure they can win a championship now so blowing it up isn't a bad choice.
要是换哈登，火箭会得到大把回报的。应该比戴维斯那个交易的筹码还要多。我真不确定火箭现在还能不能夺冠，所以说推倒重来也不是个不好的选择。
[–]Raptors CNDNFighter 698 points 5 hours ago
I'm not really sure they can win a championship now
I think it's way too early to say that. If they move Paul, they've got a hell of a lot of money to play around with in a wide open West.
Any time you have any shot at it (which they may) and one of the absolute best players in the world on your roster, blowing it up is probably not the right choice.
Like I said, I'd love it for the pure chaos of it, but it is SOOOOOOO unlikely.
猛龙球迷：“我真不确定火箭现在还能不能夺冠”
我觉得现在说这话还太早吧。如果火箭能送走保罗，那么他们在局面开放的西部就能有大把的资金来操作了。只要你还有一丝争冠机会，而且队里还有一个绝对顶尖的球星，推倒重来或许不是好选择啊。
我说了，我喜欢看热闹，可是火箭送走哈登大大的不可能。
[–]Redditaspropaganda 378 points 5 hours ago
They can't move Paul easily, it'll cost them a ton to do so and weaken the team. Unless addition by subtraction (Cp3 might have issues but he definitely made the team better).
他们想甩掉保罗可不容易啊，那得花大功夫，而且削弱球队实力。除非能起到负负得正的效果（保罗或许有问题，可是他绝对能让球队实力变强）。
[–]Raptors CNDNFighter 239 points 5 hours ago
They absolutely can't move him easily. But they will sooner do that than move Harden
猛龙球迷：送走保罗确实不容易。可他们必须动作快点，不然不得送走哈登啊。
[–]Redditaspropaganda 115 points 5 hours ago
Ya, but you need a 2nd star in this league. There's no trading CP3 for a 2nd star. And surrounding Harden with just role players idk that doesn't work, not if you want to win a ring.
可要是保罗走了，你队里得有第二球星啊。保罗是换不来第二个球星的。要是哈登身边仅配备一帮角色球员的话，不知道有没有用，要是争冠的话那是不管用的。
[–]Lakers Legendver2 155 points 5 hours ago
Ya, but you need a 2nd star in this league
Kawhi says hi
湖人球迷：“你队里得有第二球星啊”
卡哇伊考虑下
[–]Celtics Frunguper 130 points 4 hours ago
Dirk says hi
凯尔特人球迷：德克考虑下
[–]Rockets Ravenousclaw 180 points 5 hours ago
jfc, Harden's playing like a top five player right now. You don't blow it up when you've got a player like that. You blow it up to get a player like that.
火箭球迷：都特么疯了吧，哈登现在可是前五级别的啊。有这么个球员你干嘛要推到重建啊。就是为了得到这种球员才重建啊。
[–]Mavericks reesewadleymusic 165 points 3 hours ago
If you haven't realized it yet, /r/nba is absolutely obsessed with tanking and draft picks. Any team that doesn't win it all should apparently just give up and start over
独行侠球迷：你怕是还不知道吧，这个论坛就喜欢看别人摆烂捞选秀签。只要哪个队没有夺冠，他们就觉得该放弃从头再来。
[–]NBA fuckyouraesthetic 14 points 5 hours ago
This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever seen. Trading a generational talent at the height of their prime isn't a ridiculous move? There's no way in hell Morey trades Harden. Literally a 0% chance.
说交易哈登是我见过最蠢的评论之一。你球队还在鼎盛期的时候送走一个时代才有一个天才，这不是瞎闹吗？莫雷是绝对不会交易哈登的。完全是不可能。
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[–]Celtics PJCAPO 228 points 5 hours ago
LeGM sits quietly in a dark room looking at his phone. Calmly takes a sip of wine and whispers to himself...”Excellent.”
凯尔特人球迷：经理詹安静地坐在一间小黑屋里看着自己的手机。淡定地品了一口酒，然后自言自语……“真棒”
[–]Knicks HokageEzio 1056 points 5 hours ago
NBA drama never ceases to amaze.
尼克斯球迷：NBA里这些闹剧真是不停让人亮瞎眼啊
[–][HOU] Moochie Norris GeauxHouston22 30 points 5 hours ago
90% of it is smoke and mirrors tbh
火箭球迷：其实90%都是烟雾弹。
[–]Rockets successadult 378 points 5 hours ago
I would be eating this up if it wasn’t my team
火箭球迷：要是与我的主队无关，我也喜欢看热闹。
[–]Lakers Shrekt115 17 points 5 hours ago
At least it's not us this time
湖人球迷：至少这次不是我们。
[–][TOR] Kawhi Leonard adomanski 586 points 5 hours ago
Lol who the hell is taking Chris Paul's fatass contract.
猛龙球迷：哈哈哈哈，谁特么会要保罗的烂合同哦
[–]Rockets illegal_deagle 49 points 5 hours ago
Surely his public trade demand will give us more leverage when trading the $44M/year 34 year old injury prone locker room cancer
火箭球迷：他公开要求转会肯定会让我们占得更多的“便宜”，毕竟34岁的年纪容易受伤还是更衣室毒瘤，最后一年的合同高达4400万。
[–]Raptors JevvyMedia 338 points 5 hours ago
Knicks
猛龙球迷：找尼克斯啊
[–]Knicks firstbreathOOC 180 points 4 hours ago
cmon man
尼克斯球迷：别这样，老哥
[–]Lakers sadclown21 8 points 4 hours ago
Lakers pls no
湖人球迷：我湖可别去凑热闹了
[–]Shills26 11 points 4 hours ago
Isaac Bonga for CP3
Straight up
邦加直接换保罗！
[–]Hornets philjacksonspeyote 71 points 5 hours ago
I’m worried that’s exactly what we will do. All the Hornets care about is selling tickets.
黄蜂球迷：我真的担心我蜂会接盘保罗，毕竟我们只在乎卖票。
[–]Supersonics jrainiersea 42 points 4 hours ago
Honestly your cap is fucked for the next few years anyway, regardless of if Kemba stays or not, so if he leaves then bringing in Paul isn't the worst idea at that point
超音速球迷：讲真，不管沃克留不留，反正你们今后几年的薪资空间已经一团糟了，所以要是他走了，那你们引进保罗也不是最坏的选择啊。
[–]Hornets philjacksonspeyote 15 points 4 hours ago
We're fucked for as long as MJ owns the team
黄蜂球迷：只要乔丹是老板，我们就是一团糟。
[–]Pelicans AnotherStatsGuy 154 points 4 hours ago
I mean, the Pelicans could in theory ship out their expiring contracts in Moore and Hill and throw in Lonzo and in exchange take back Paul and extract several firsts from Houston. The Pelicans have like 24 M after the AD trade in cap space, so Paul could actually be traded into their cap. The last time New Orleans used cap to sign a FA without a spike was James Posey back in 2009.
鹈鹕球迷：我以为吧，理论上来说，鹈鹕可以把他们快要到期的合同球员伊托万-摩尔和所罗门希尔，再加上鲍尔送出去换回保罗和几个首轮啊。戴维斯走了之后，鹈鹕貌似有2400万的空间，交易保罗其实是可行的。
[–]Timberwolves gradual_alzheimers 61 points 4 hours ago
That’s actually not a bad idea
森林狼球迷：你这个主意其实还不赖。
[–]IzzyThiccness 23 points 3 hours ago
It’s always been LaVar’s plan to get Lonzo to Houston.
球爹一直都计划把鲍尔弄到休斯顿去。
[–]FolgersFinest 13 points 3 hours ago
all the good moves the pelicans have made so far in the off season would be erased if they traded for paul and his gigantic contract
要是鹈鹕真接盘了保罗和他的大合同，那他们之前所有的神操作都化为乌有了。
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[–]Pelicans dumbledorky 2731 points 6 hours ago
So the last few years CP has beefed with Blake Griffin and James Harden, all while getting injured every year. Maybe he's the problem?
鹈鹕球迷：所以说，过往几个赛季，年年受伤的保罗和格里芬、哈登都结了梁子。或许是他自己的问题？
[–]Warriors JadedBasket 325 points 5 hours ago*
If you smell shit everywhere you go check your own shoe
勇士球迷：如果你到哪儿都能闻到屎，那你该看看你的脚底。
[–]Clippers doinnothin 1565 points 5 hours ago
Clipper fans have come to realize he was most likely the root of all of our locker room problems during the Lob City years.
快船球迷：船蜜必须意识到，空接之城那些年，保罗很可能就是我们更衣室问题的根源。
[–]Lakers FigityFuck 870 points 5 hours ago
That’s a shocker I tell you.
湖人球迷：多新鲜呢
[–]General-Kn0wledge 618 points 5 hours ago
You better be careful, Chris Paul might take a secret tunnel and beat you up
你最好说话注意点。保罗搞不好会从秘密通道过去打你一顿。
[–]Raptors KawhiGotUsNow 73 points 5 hours ago
he's gonna take a secret tunnel and find a way onto the lakers
猛龙球迷：他要从秘密通道加盟湖人。
[–]Lakers callmecharon 60 points 5 hours ago
You shut your mouth
湖人球迷：闭嘴！
[–]Clippers doinnothin 63 points 5 hours ago*
As obvious as it seems now, at the time a lot of the blame was aimed at Doc and Blake.
快船球迷：现在看来已经很明显就是保罗的问题了，当年很多人都怪里弗斯和格里芬。
[–]Raptors Konfliction 198 points 5 hours ago
Yea, Blake kind of made himself look amazing this year with Detroit being on his own. Can't see how hes the issue.
猛龙球迷：是啊，格里芬貌似这个赛季在活塞打得很可以啊。看不出他哪里有问题了。
[–]Warriors DubsComin4DatASS 63 points 4 hours ago
To be fair, he might have just changed as a person when he left the Clippers. After all, he broke his equipment manager's(?) face when he was with the Clippers.
勇士球迷：有一说一，也许是他离开快船过后变了很多。毕竟他在快船期间打了球队的装备经理。
[–]Warriors juniSMASH 82 points 5 hours ago
Was CP3 like this back in his Hornets years? I knew he had a low blow back in college. Didn't watch many Hornets games, but loved him back then and didn't start seeing his antics/problems until his Clipper years.
勇士球迷：当初在黄蜂（鹈鹕）效力的时候保罗也是这个样子的吗？我知道他在大学的时候也玩阴的。他在黄蜂的比赛看得不多，可是当时还蛮喜欢他，到了快船才开始发现他的这些毛病。
[–]General-Kn0wledge 152 points 5 hours ago
He was a young star surrounded by established vets, some of whom were all stars or extremely valuable role players (David West, peja, Tyson chandler, bonzi wells and Bobby Jackson). I doubt any of those guys woulda taken lip from a 22 year old
他当时还是个年轻球星，身边有很多成名老将，有些曾是全明星或者是很有价值的角色球员（韦斯特、佩贾、钱德勒、邦奇-威尔斯和鲍比-杰克逊）。我觉得他们这些人也不会和一个22岁的小孩逞口舌之快吧。
[–]Suns JFZephyr 22 points 4 hours ago
Would definitely not fuck with West or Chandler that's for damn well sure.
太阳球迷：他肯定不敢和韦斯特、钱德勒斗狠，这特么的绝对的。
[–]Morallah 81 points 5 hours ago
Tbf Harden had his problems with Dwight and McHale.
说真的，哈登也曾和霍华德、麦克海尔不和啊
[–][HOU] Luis Scola H-TownDown 176 points 5 hours ago
Dwight has had problems almost everywhere he’s been since Orlando. His hometown team didn’t even want him back.
火箭球迷：霍华德自打离开奥兰多过后，几乎他所到之处都会有矛盾吧。他的家乡球队甚至都不想要他回去。
[–]Thunder ero_mode 51 points 5 hours ago
Some hornets players spoke up for Dwight's character. Hasn't had any problems on the wizards either.
雷霆球迷：可是有些黄蜂球员还为霍华德说过好话啊，而且他在奇才的时候也没啥问题啊。
[–]Rockets Whydidideletemyaccou 623 points 6 hours ago*
Yo, fuck you Chris Paul.
You were perfectly fine with accepting 40 million fucking dollars with the same play style.
火箭球迷：Yo，保罗你可滚犊子吧。
当初你特么拿4000万合约的时候我们就是这个打法了，也没见你有啥意见啊。
[–]Cavaliers remorse667 239 points 5 hours ago
I mean apparently he's just tired of living and dying by the Harden iso. can't blame him
骑士球迷：我觉得他明显就是受够了哈登的单打，不能怪他。
[–]Rockets Whydidideletemyaccou 222 points 5 hours ago
He was perfectly fine getting carried to the WCF for the first time ever and then accepting 40 million dollar contract to play with the team long term.
火箭球迷：他生涯首次被人带进西决，然后接受4000多万的长期大合同，他当时乐意的很啊。
[–]Clippers tylerjehills 10 points 4 hours ago
Paul is the only reason you ever had a shot to reach the Finals
快船球迷：你火之所以有机会进入西决，就是因为有保罗。
[–][MIA] Dwyane Wade daulten780 137 points 5 hours ago
“Carried” Lmao. Harden is one of the best players in the world but don’t understate what Chris Paul did for Houston his first year.
热火球迷：“被人带”，笑死个人咯。哈登确实是世界最强之一，可是也不要小看了保罗第一个赛季在火箭的作用。
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[–][POR] Damian Lillard Familyguy35 1171 points 5 hours ago
Anfernee Simons literally changed NBA history with one 37 point effort in a 28 point 4th quarter comeback. LEGEND
开拓者球迷：原来就是安芬尼-西蒙斯那一战（四月开拓者胜国王）改写了联盟历史啊，他拿到37分，其中第四节28分帮助球队逆转，是个人物咧。
[–][LAL] Lonzo Ball LonzoCalrissian 72 points 5 hours ago
Did that game change seeding? What was the specific fallout of that game?
湖人球迷：那场比赛是不是改变了西部的排名？具体结果是咋样的？
[–][LAC] Doc Rivers isaacz321 238 points 5 hours ago
the rockets would've been a 3 seed instead of a 4 seed. Theoretically they would've faced gs in the conference finals and gotten a whole series vs kd less warriors
快船球迷：火箭本来是第三而不是第四。理论上来说，火箭本来要碰勇士的话还得等到西决，还能整轮系列赛都面对一支缺少阿杜的勇士。
[–]Raptors DBrods11 13 points 4 hours ago
I credit Afernee Simmons for the Raptors ring tbh
猛龙球迷：说真的，我龙夺冠有安芬尼-西蒙斯的功劳啊。
[–][BOS] Jaylen Brown Ye_Biz[] 23 points 5 hours ago
Truly the GOAT, changed the whole landscape of the league
凯尔特人球迷：真的是历史最佳啊，一战改变了联盟格局。
[–]Twice EXE 388 points 6 hours ago
So let's look at the 3% chance that Paul is actually untradeable and Harden demands out instead.
What kind of haul would be worth one Harden?
所以假如有3%的几率保罗真没法走掉，然后哈登要求离开。那他能换来多少狠人呢？
[–]Mavericks ErronBlack 76 points 6 hours ago
A lot. It could be a superstar swap+assets from the other team, or maybe two All-Star caliber players, or maybe three young players who will likely live up to the hype + a few picks. Harden is a Top 5 at the very least, hell you could even argue that he should have been the MVP for this year.
独行侠球迷：很多啊。可能是超巨和其他交易资产的互换，或者是两个全明星级别的球员，再或者是三个有望兑现天赋的年轻人和几个选秀签。哈登至少是联盟前五吧，你甚至可以说他应该是今年的MVP。
[–]Supersonics ober12 314 points 6 hours ago
Beal and every pick the Wizards have until 2030
超音速球迷：哈登可以换来比尔加上奇才一直到2030年的所有选秀签。
[–]youlitboy 73 points 6 hours ago
ben simmons and jimmy butler for harden
本-西蒙斯加巴特勒换哈登。
[–]Lakers LumpyList6 461 points 6 hours ago
Kuz and a 1st?
湖人球迷：库兹马加上一个首轮？
[–]Bulls DeySeeMeLurkin 154 points 6 hours ago
Lmao
公牛球迷：哈哈哈
[–]Lakers ty9023 41 points 6 hours ago
Half a Jayson Tatum
湖人球迷：半个塔图姆也行。
[–]Bucks Dischucker 512 points 6 hours ago
How pissed would rockets fans be if harden got traded
雄鹿球迷：要是哈登真被交易了，火蜜得有多火大啊
[–]Rockets Name_Redacted_ 33 points 6 hours ago
Seppuku
火箭球迷：切腹自尽！
[–]Rockets SJA_YNWA 32 points 5 hours ago
Honestly I’d be very upset because I love Harden despite his flaws. He got our franchise back in contention after the disappointment of the Yao/T-Mac era and the ensuing competitive rebuilding. Despite what many people say, he is really fun to watch nightly. At the same time, if it can’t work here, I just hope he goes somewhere and gets a ring. I’d love for him to be able to add that to his legacy and shut people up. I highly doubt we trade him, but sports are crazy so I don’t want to say it’ll never happen.
火箭球迷：说实话，那我会非常失望，因为哈登虽说有缺点，但是我很喜欢他。经历过姚麦时代的失望后，是哈登把球队重新带到了争冠行列，保证了球队的竞争力。不管别人怎么说，他的比赛真的很有观赏性。话又说回来了，如果他在我火无法取得成就，我就希望他去其他球队拿个冠军。我希望他能提升个人成就让那些人闭嘴。我是很不认为我们会交易他的，不过竞技体育说不准啊，所以我不会说这事儿没可能发生。
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