【美帝键盘侠】所有年轻球员都被高估？|欧文被高估？

2018-08-13 16:37:06 来源：零点吧

Who in your opinion is the most overrated player in the league?

谁才是这个联盟里最被高估的球员？

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[–][PHI] Robert Covingtongulfwang 566 指標 12小時前

every young player

76人球迷：所有的年轻球员。

[–]PacersThe_One_X 52 指標 7小時前

This is the correct answer. Take you pick out of any player under 24 years old, and most people are probably rating them on their potential more than on what they are.

步行者球迷：我觉得你说得很对，很多时候当你选择了一个24岁以下的球员，很多人都会将他们的潜能视作无限大……远超他们自己的实际能力。

[–]EbonyWargreymon 46 指標 6小時前

Everyone except Giannis lol

每个人……除了字母哥哈哈哈哈。

[–]LakersILOVEBASKETBALL24_8 63 指標 8小時前

Yup. More than half the guys we expect to be great will fade into the crowd soon enough

湖人球迷：正解……有超过半数我们认为的明日之星最终泯然众人了。

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[–]Senseisntsocommon 402 指標 12小時前

On here, Jokic. However outside of here Jokic might be underrated.

在Reddit里，我觉得是约基奇，然而在这之外我觉得约基奇可能被低估了。

[–]Nuggetssorakaisthegoat 74 指標 11小時前

Where's all these people overrating Jokic?

掘金球迷：这里有谁高估了约基奇？

[–]Senseisntsocommon 162 指標 10小時前

Go to any thread talking about best center and you have people listing him as third. That's overrating

这里很多讨论都将约基奇置于最佳中锋的前三甲之中，这不是高估是啥？

[–]LakersR_Slickerz 32 指標 10小時前

Lol, who do you have over him? I got only boogie...you can make argument for Embiid, Towns, hell even Gobert (even tho i think it's ridiculous)...but who else? Not being top 5 is severly underrating him, dude was 24/12/6 over the last month and almost single handedly led them to playoffs over the final stretch

湖人球迷：哈哈哈，你能说出几个比他强得嘛？我数来数去也只有考辛斯……你可能会在恩比德、唐斯、好吧还有戈贝尔（实际上我觉得这很荒谬）……但是还有谁呢？不在联盟前五明显是低估了他，上个月他才场均能拿下24＋12＋6的数据，而且几乎依靠自己一个人吊住了掘金冲向季后赛的道路。

[–]RaptorsDaPhoToss 104 指標 9小時前

Embiid is CLEARLY over Jokic. Embiid is one of the best defensive bigs in the league while still being great offensively. Jokic is better offensively but the gap isn't huge like the gap in their defence.

猛龙球迷：恩比德肯定要比约基奇强吧，恩比德是联盟里防守数一数二的大个子，而且在进攻端也是花样百出。约基奇在进攻端可能要强于恩比德，但是他们进攻之间的差距估计没有这两者的防守之间的差距大吧。

[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 53 指標 9小時前

I've seen multiple people say that he's as good as prime Larry Bird. Jokic is really good, but that's fucknuts.

开拓者球迷：我看到很多人说他和巅峰拉里-伯德一样强，约基奇的确很强，但是这也太扯淡了。

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[–]rizzeck 173 指標 10小時前

KAT. I think he is going to be less like Durant/AD and more like Lamarcus Aldridge. Still a star, but not a generational talent.

我觉得是卡尔-安东尼-唐斯，他与杜兰特和安东尼-戴维斯相比已经越来越远了，他更像拉马库斯-阿尔德里奇，的确有全明星水平，但是并不是跨时代的天赋。

[–][CHI] Michael JordanThexJwubbz 28 指標 8小時前

I see people talking about him being in the top 10. They look at the fact that he scores a lot while being close to having a 50/40/90 season and forget his shortcomings on both sides of the ball. Looked really unimpressive in the last month or so of the season leading into that mediocre series against Houston. He doesn’t look like a leader right now, or even someone you can build a team around. There’s just a lot of question marks.

公牛球迷：我看到有人在讨论唐斯是否能位居联盟前十，他们只看到了唐斯的得分数据以及他接近180俱乐部的命中率，但是他们却忘记了他在攻防两端都有致命缺陷。看他在季后赛对阵火箭的比赛的存在感吧，简直不要太低。他现在看起来依然不是一个合格的领导者，甚至不是建队核心之一，他身上问题太多了。

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[–]76ersWelcomeToCostco16 195 指標 10小時前

John Wall. His game is flawed and he avoids the criticism other players get for relying on athleticism

76人球迷：约翰-沃尔，他的比赛真的是粗糙，他也一直避免接触到和其他球员类似的“你怎么依赖身体”的批评。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 75 指標 9小時前

Where have you been the last 3 years? You must not be reading /r/NBA threads

奇才球迷：老哥你这三年都在干啥？我猜你一定没看Reddit上的帖子，这几年黑沃尔的人不要太多啊。

[–]RaptorsBatmanana5 275 指標 11小時前

Devin Booker. Dude's an insanely talented scorer (25 on slightly above average TS) but from watching this guy he doesn't do anything else at a high level. He honestly reminds me of the Raptors with DeMar, but a better shooter obviously and not nearly as atheltic. I think he's gonna be good, but I don't see the superstar potential. Would love to be proven wrong though honestly

猛龙球迷：德文-布克，这家伙有着很强的得分能力（场均25分，真实命中率还高于平均值），但是除了得分他看起来并没有其他东西在高水准之上的，他让我想起了当年在猛龙的德罗赞，但是可能要比德罗赞投篮更好，但是身体素质却要比德罗赞差一些，我觉得他会很棒，但是我不觉得他有超级球星的天赋，希望有朝一日他能打我的脸吧。

[–]JazzMonkeyfeng 34 指標 7小時前

I feel like Donovan Mitchell is already more famous than Devin Booker. Please correct me if I am wrong.

爵士球迷：我现在都觉得多诺万-米切尔要比德文-布克著名了，如果我错了还请更正我啊。

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[–]Rocketsplaytio 306 指標 13小時前

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but everybody is saying Kawhi is the best player in the East and the man has barely played in the last 14 months.

火箭球迷：我可能要说一个非主流的观点，每个人都在说莱昂纳德是东部最好的球员，但是这家伙过去十四个月都没打球啊。

[–][WAS] Gilbert Arenasf5_szn 128 指標 13小時前

you're overreacting to him missing time, kawhi is the best player in the east, no need to overthink this.

he showed he was the same player in his 7 games this year, once he gets his rhythm and timing back the raptors will take off.

its not like he's sitting on his ass being injured doing nothing.

奇才球迷：你高估了缺席比赛对他的影响，莱昂纳德就是东部最强的球员，这一点根本无需置疑。

他在上赛季出场的七场比赛里依然证明了他和以前别无二致，一旦他找到自己的节奏并且回归，猛龙起飞只是时间问题。

别觉得他受伤之后只坐在那啥都没做啊。

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[–]Supersonicssam90201 460 指標 13小時前

Tatum

超音速球迷：塔图姆。

[–][DAL] Tyronn Luebrian27610 383 指標 10小時前

2k gave him a fucking 87 overall this year... while giving kemba an 85 lmao

独行侠球迷：2K甚至给了塔图姆87分的高评分……要知道肯巴-沃克才85分哈哈哈。

[–][LAL] Brandon IngramBriocheFT 308 指標 12小時前

I think he's overrated because people act like he's a superstar lock. I think he had a great rookie season and i expect him to be real good, but that's why i think he's overrated

湖人球迷：我觉得他被高估了，因为人们都觉得他的表现已经锁定了超级巨星，我觉得他只是有一个很棒的新秀赛季罢了，我也期待他真的变得很强，但是这就是他被高估的理由。

[–]Celticsnikebauerr 62 指標 12小時前

For sure. No one that young should be dubbed a superstar lock, especially with only one season of tape.

But the most overrated in the league? I don't know about that. He just had one of the best rookie seasons for a teenager in the history of the NBA and a historically good playoff run for a rookie. He's going to get over hyped as all rookies do but I feel like he has earned most of his praise.

Overrated by some Celtics fans, definitely, but I don't think it's homerism to believe he has as good a chance as anyone 23 and younger to become a superstar

凯尔特人球迷：确实如此，没人能在这么年轻的时候就锁定超级巨星，要知道他才拥有一个赛季的录像带呢。

但是关于联盟最被高估的球员？我不觉得他是，他拥有着NBA历史上最棒的新秀赛季之一，并且以新秀身份打出了一个极其出彩的季后赛，他在季后赛里表现得比所有新秀都强，我觉得他配得上自己所受到的赞誉。

他确实被很多凯尔特人粉丝赞誉，但是我相信他能在一众23岁以下球员里脱颖而出成为超级巨星。

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[–]an1234567890 90 指標 11小時前

Kyrie Irving imo. A lot of people think he is better than Westbrook or that he is a top 2 PG in the league, while I think he is more of a Tier 2 PG, in the same tier as Wall and Lillard.

我觉得是欧文，很多人觉得他比威少强，或者说他是联盟前二的控球后卫，但是我觉得他最多是第二梯队里最强的控球后卫，和沃尔以及利拉德齐平。

[–]NBAbondom3417 196 指標 12小時前

Kyrie

Boston literally has a better O rating in the playoffs and dude is talked about on Westbrook/CP/Curry level by some. He's never lead a team anywhere and his impact numbers are mediocre at best yet talked about as a top 10 player. He's not close.

欧文，欧文在纸面上对于凯尔特人在季后赛的影响为零，人们总是讨论他是不是和威少/保罗/库里一个级别的，他从来没有完全领导过一支球队，他具有影响力的数据如果作为联盟前十球员讨论得话也太少了，他从未接近过联盟前十。

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[–]NBASpencer_Ballen 106 指標 13小時前

I've always thought Demar Derozan was overrated. Borderline top 20-25 player that people were occasionally talking about as a top 10 talent.

我觉得德玛尔-德罗赞被高估了，他不过是前20-25的守门员罢了，很多人竟然讨论他是不是拥有联盟前十的天赋。

[–]Raptorspleasefeedthedino 174 指標 13小時前

Overrated? He was ranked 39th by ESPN's expert panel last year, behind Jae Crowder.

No one talks about him as a top 10 talent except people who want to call him overrated. He got some mild MVP top 10 consideration because he was the lead option on a 59 win team, but nobody says he's a legit superstar.

Overrated would be somebody who doesn't constantly get shit on for his middling efficiency/lack of defense (which are valid concerns).

高估？你仿佛在搞笑。去年他被ESPN排名第39，这还在杰-克劳德后面。

没人说他拥有前十的天赋，除了人们说他被高估的时候，他确实置于了MVP前十的讨论之中，那只不过是因为他是一支59胜的球队的第一选择，但是也没人说他是超级球星啊。

如果真的被高估了，那么应该没人会吐槽他的中距离效率以及防守端的缺失吧。

[–][CLE] LeBron Jamesnzahir 83 指標 13小時前

If I am just going with an overrated star: Lillard

Not very efficient from the field, not a great defender. People talk about this guy like he is a top 10 guy. Rather have curry, russ, kyrie, and cp3 for sure.

He is right up there with Wall and Lowry

骑士球迷：我说一个：利拉德。

在球场上投篮效率并不高，并不是一个好的防守球员，人们总是说他是前十球员，甚至觉得他比库里、威少、欧文以及保罗强。

他实际上和沃尔以及洛瑞差不多。

[–]an1234567890 83 指標 11小時前

He does have a 59% TS and doesn't turn the ball over much , so pretty efficient if you ask me...

他的真实命中率是59%……而且失误也不多，所以如果你问我我会告诉你他效率很高……

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[–][DEN] Nikola JokicDenverNuggetz 30 指標 13小時前

Paul George, don’t @ me

掘金球迷：保罗-乔治，不要艾特我好不？

[–]KnicksSpentitinGenoa 83 指標 12小時前

he’s one of the hardest matchups on both sides of the court lol

尼克斯球迷：无论攻防两端他可都是联盟最难搞得对位哦。

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