【美帝键盘侠】哪支青年军最有可能如雷霆般分崩离析？

2018-09-02 11:30:33 来源：零点吧

In 2012, the OKC Thunder were a consensus to win at least 1 title in the near future due to their core. 6 years later, they have 0. Which hyped young core do you think will fall apart similarly?

2012年，雷霆因为他们的年轻核心而被认为未来至少能夺得一次总冠军，6年过去了，这支球队一无所获，你觉得现在哪一支年轻球队的核心将会和雷霆一样分崩离析呢？

What team does everyone expect to be Finals contenders for years to come (besides the Warriors) that you think isn't as certain as popular opinion would suggest?

总得来说就是你觉得那支球队是大家都众望所归能够成为冠军有利争夺者的（除了勇士），而你却觉得实际上并不能和成为总冠军的争夺者的球队有哪些呢？

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[–]deck13 390 指標 1 天前

76ers or Celtics, just because winning a championship is a hard thing to achieve

76人或者凯尔特人吧，就是因为赢总冠军实际上是一个很难达成的事情。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobilixPineappless 55 指標 1 天前

76ers aren’t that young

马刺球迷：76人实际上核心团体还没当年雷霆那么年轻。

[–]WildYams 124 指標 1 天前

Everyone just thinks they are because their players haven't been in the NBA long, but they were all either missing years due to injuries or playing overseas.

每个人都觉得他们很年轻，因为他们的球员确实都没打很长时间NBA ，但是他们因为伤病和海外经历所以都错过了不少比赛。

[–]76ersIVAN_CLEARY 249 指標 1 天前

I dunno, if Markelle starts then the entire starting 5 is under 24.

76人球迷：确实如此，如果富尔茨复出的话，整个首发五虎平均年龄24岁左右吧。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 69 指標 1 天前

Plus OKC was historically young. No teams make the finals with everyone under 24. Except them. Philly doesn’t have to do that. Just keep developing guys, make good moves, and land one more piece and they will contend for a championship with Boston once the Warriors all get over 30 or if one of them dips

奇才球迷：雷霆当年是历史级别的年轻，除了他们没有球队能在核心平均年龄24岁以下就能杀进总决赛了。费城也不可能做到这点，他们只能继续培养球员，做几笔好的交易，然后获得更多拼图，等待着金州慢慢老去或者其中一人离开，他们就能和波士顿一起为了总冠军争霸了。

[–][SAS] Manu GinobilixPineappless 26 指標 2 天前

I just don’t see Markelle fitting in with that group. I think Ben needs to be the PG because he’s a playmaker and if he can shoot mid range jumpers then the league needs to watch out. I wouldn’t want MF to play Pg and I think he’s too short to play SG. If I were y’all I would trade for assets

马刺球迷：我不觉得富尔茨能很好适应这个年轻团队，我觉得西蒙斯一定要打控卫，因为他是绝佳的控球者，如果他能命中中投的话那么整个联盟都需要注意了，我觉得我不想让富尔茨打控卫、而且我觉得他打分位又太矮，如果我是76人管理层我会用富尔茨交易换来一些别的资产。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 21 指標 1 天前

Fultz is really big for a point guard. He would be a good sized two. I think he’s bigger than Beal and much bigger than McCollum

奇才球迷：富尔茨在控球后卫这个位置算大个控卫吧，他的吨位打二号位也没什么问题，我觉得他比比尔要壮实不少，要比麦科勒姆壮得多。

[–]WarriorsFrewsa 11 指標 1 天前

Also, he can always defend the 1, but play like a SG on offense

奇才球迷：同样，他可以防守1号位，然后在进攻端扮演2号位角色啊。

[–]Warriorspimonster31415 61 指標 2 天前

Simmons can be a defensive 2 and an offensive 1 while Markelle is an offensive 2 and a defensive 1

勇士球迷：西蒙斯可以防守2号位然后进攻端扮演1号位，而富尔茨可以在进攻端扮演2号位而在防守端去防1号位啊。

[–]BullsBone_Dogg 42 指標 1 天前

if he can shoot mid range jumpers then the league needs to watch out

People say this so often about so many players. Guess what? They’ve been trying.

公牛球迷：

“如果他能投中距离会让整个联盟为之颤抖。”

人们对很多球员说过这样的话，猜猜结果？他们还是一直投不进中距离。

[–]Wizardslivefreeordont 31 指標 1 天前

Blake developed a jump shot after years of trying. His midrange game was horrible until year 3 or 4 or so

奇才球迷：格里芬在一年的中距离训练之后确实跳投见长了啊，他的中距离在三年级、四年级的时候简直可怕啊。

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[–][MIA] Dwyane WadeBronn_Bronn 8 指標 1 天前

Aren't as good as OKC was, either.

OKC had their big 3 + Ibaka.

Sixers need a 3rd guy and a 4th guy.

热火球迷：我觉得目前没有任何一支青年军可以和当年那支雷霆相比较。

雷霆当年有三巨头+伊巴卡。

76人还需要三当家和四当家。

[–][CLE] Kevin Lovequentin-coldwater 6 指標 1 天前

Simmons is 22, Embiid is 24. Fultz is 20.

When KD/Russ/Harden made the finals they were 23, 23, 22.

It's similar, at least. But for it to be a good comparison, they'd need to make the finals this year or next and Fultz would need to develop into a star.

骑士球迷：

西蒙斯22岁，恩比德24岁，富尔茨20岁。

KD+威斯布鲁克+哈登杀进总决赛时年龄为23、22、22岁。

至少在年龄上还是挺相像的，但是如果能和雷霆相提并论，他们至少需要在这个赛季或者下个赛季杀入季后赛，而富尔茨需要成长为一个明星。

[–][NYK] Stephon Marburysalteddan 156 指標 2 天前

I don’t really get picking the Celtics as more likely to bust than the Sixers... a better head coach, obviously more stable front office, and they’ve handled their picks and the draft as well as any team recently. I guess you could argue the Sixers young core relies less on a fly-by-night superstar, but I think the pieces have fallen much more in the favor of Boston.

Coming from a Knicks fan who would like to see both teams launched into the fucking moon.

尼克斯球迷：我觉得76人相较于凯尔特人更容易分崩离析吧……毕竟后者有很棒的主教练、冷静的制服组、他们最近在选秀权和选秀的处理上比任何一个队伍都强，我猜你可能会觉得76人的年轻核心们更少依赖那种超级巨星，但是我觉得未来那些拼图球员会更倾向于凯尔特人吧。

当然，作为一个尼克斯球迷，我原因看到这两支球队通通分崩离析。

[–]KingsSuperherosusan 224 指標 2 天前

I could see Kyrie leaving and Horford/Hayward aging poorly and the great Celtics core never winning anything

国王球迷：我仿佛看到了欧文离开、霍福德+海沃德逐渐老去，年轻的凯尔特人核心一无所获的样子了。

[–][WAS] Gheorghe Muresankubideh_fuckdwight 435 指標 2 天前

celtics

ainge will fly too close to the sun with one of these trades someday, i can feel it in my bones

奇才球迷：

凯尔特人吧。

安吉迟早有一天因为交易他们的年轻球员而飞到离太阳最近的地方灰飞烟灭，对此我深信不疑。

[–]Blackmanwdaplan 82 指標 2 天前

Celtics are the least likely of these young teams because of coaching and front office strength.

我觉得凯尔特人最没可能了，因为他们的制服组和教练组都很强。

[–][MIA] Udonis Haslemelbenji 104 指標 2 天前

That's what they said literally about okc

热火球迷：我们以前也是这么说雷霆的。

[–][LAC] Patrick BeverleyTatumBoomedMe 99 指標 2 天前

Young cores are overrated. People always bring up Ingram, Lonzo, Kuzma, Tatum and mention them as if they’re guaranteed stars in the future.

快船球迷：我觉得人们对于青年军都高估了，人们总是狂吹英格拉姆、鲍尔、库兹马、塔图姆，好像他们未来就一定能成为明星一样。

[–]Blackmanwdaplan 26 指標 2 天前

Sixers or Lakers

76人或者湖人吧。

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[–]Raptorsnizmooh 9 指標 2 天前

Timberwolves

猛龙球迷：森林狼。

[–]aciman 13 指標 2 天前

Where's the hype?

他们的天赋在哪呢？

[–]Raptorsnizmooh 21 指標 2 天前

Idk I remember like two years ago being really excited for lavine-wiggins-towns that year when they all averaged 20 as a trio + I had faith in Dunn who was misused by Thibs imo and Lauri incoming in the draft could have given them a solid squad to build on.

猛龙球迷：大概还在两年前，我对于拉文+维金斯+唐斯的阵容充满着期待，他们都在20岁左右+我对于邓恩充满着信心，相信他在锡伯杜的调教下能干出一番大视野，而且当时森林狼还有机会选择马尔卡宁，我觉得他们真的能组建一个非常不错的青年军的。

[–]aciman 64 指標 2 天前

Sixers. They're just not that good

76人更容易分崩离析吧，他们根本没有人们想象得那么优秀。

[–][LAL] Nick YoungTheChipiboy 17 指標 1 天前

I feel like they will digress after losing out on Belineli and Illyasova

湖人球迷：我觉得他们在失去贝里内利和伊利亚索瓦之后实力下降不少。

[–]MavericksBayonettaBasher 161 指標 1 天前

Warriors 2015 was a young core that developed right

独行侠球迷：老实说2015年的勇士是一个年轻的核心阵容啊，他们发展的也很不错。

[–]Lakersrawchess 59 指標 1 天前

Seriously, the Warriors turned a 7th pick into the first unanimous MVP and an 11th and 35th(!) pick into perennial allstars.

They're the reason people are so into this organic core idea now.

湖人球迷：严肃来说，勇士用第七顺位选了一个MVP，然后用11顺位、35顺位！选了未来的全明星。

也正是他们让现在的人们对于培养年轻核心团体充满了兴趣。

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[–]GrizzliesWehavecrashed 30 指標 1 天前

The kings drafted IT, DMC, Tyreke Evans and didn't develop shit. You gotta have great people at every level in your org, drafting, developing, coaching and trading.

灰熊球迷：国王当年选了小托马斯+考辛斯+泰瑞克-埃文斯，然后培养他们像屎一样，所以真的想建立优秀的年轻核心团体，你需要在选秀、培养、教练和交易方面都做得不错。

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